Lest Anyone Think I’m Dodging The Story…
…I’m well aware that the Iraqi Prime Minister gave a boost to the Obama campaign by seemingly endorsing a quicker troop withdrawal than either Senator McCain or the Bush Administration is in favor of, and indeed, in seemingly direct contradiction of the recent joint statements of the Iraqi government and the Administration of a general ‘time horizon’ of at least five years. The New York Times notes that the Iraqi government is trying to walk the story back, but without specifics, and it seems that the Der Spiegel translation was accurate:
On the eve of Senator Barack Obama’s visit to Iraq, its prime minister tried to step back Sunday from comments in an interview in which he appeared to support Mr. Obama’s plan for troop withdrawal.
The interview with the prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, was published Saturday in the online version of Der Spiegel, a German magazine. It was widely picked up by American newspapers because it appeared to give an unexpected boost to Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who has called for an expedited withdrawal.
The interview prompted immediate concern from the Bush administration, which called to seek clarification from Mr. Maliki’s office, American officials said.
Scott M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman with President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Tex., said that embassy officials explained to the Iraqis how the interview in Der Spiegel was being interpreted, given that it came just a day after the two governments announced an agreement over American troops.
“The Iraqis were not aware and wanted to correct it,” he said.
…[I]n Iraq, controversy continued to reverberate between the United States and Iraqi governments over a weekend news report that Mr. Maliki had expressed support for Mr. Obama’s proposal to withdraw American combat troops within 16 months of January. The reported comments came after Mr. Bush agreed on Friday to a “general time horizon” for pulling out troops from Iraq without a specific timeline.
Diplomats from the United States Embassy in Baghdad spoke to Mr. Maliki’s advisers on Saturday, said an American official, speaking on condition of anonymity in order to discuss what he called diplomatic communications. After that, the government’s spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, issued a statement casting doubt on the magazine’s rendering of the interview.
The statement, which was distributed to media organizations by the American military early on Sunday, said Mr. Maliki’s words had been “misunderstood and mistranslated,” but it failed to cite specifics.
“Unfortunately, Der Spiegel was not accurate,” Mr. Dabbagh said Sunday by telephone. “I have the recording of the voice of Mr. Maliki. We even listened to the translation.”
But the interpreter for the interview works for Mr. Maliki’s office, not the magazine. And in an audio recording of Mr. Maliki’s interview that Der Spiegel provided to The New York Times, Mr. Maliki seemed to state a clear affinity for Mr. Obama’s position, bringing it up on his own in an answer to a general question on troop presence.
The following is a direct translation from the Arabic of Mr. Maliki’s comments by The Times: “Obama’s remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq.”
He continued: “Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq.”
Mr. Maliki’s top political adviser, Sadiq al-Rikabi, declined to comment on the remarks, but spoke in general about the Iraqi position on Sunday. Part of that position, he said, comes from domestic political pressure to withdraw.
“Foreign soldiers in the middle of the most populated areas are not without their side effects,” he said. “Shouldn’t we look to an end for this unhealthy situation?”
Administration officials expressed confidence on Sunday that Mr. Maliki did not intend to create a rift with Mr. Bush on the issue of withdrawals, saying that both leaders conditioned any troop pullout on improved security in Iraq and would not impose a rigid timetable.
But a senior military official in Iraq said top American commanders expressed surprise and confusion over Mr. Maliki’s published remarks. The official added, however, that no American officers spoke to the Iraqi prime minister or any of his top aides about them.
“This isn’t the first time this has happened with the prime minister,” said the senior military official, noting that Mr. Maliki or his top aides had had to issue clarifications previously of comments that Iraqi or foreign journalists reported the prime minister said. “All of us were going, ‘What? What did he say, why did he say it and was it accurate?’ ”
Well, this is troubling to me – not because it gives a boost to Obama (let’s face it – barring some major turn of events, he’s the next president, regardless), but because it DOES directly contradict an agreement between the current ruling governments of both Iraq and America. It suggests that either Maliki:
(a) says what he thinks his audience wants to hear (but perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised – in that respect, he would be no different than Obama), or
(b) is not a man of his word, and is simply playing the U.S.
The second option, of course, is completely unacceptable, given how much we’ve given in lives and money to ensure the survival of his government.
My position remains that of Bush and McCain: while it appears that we may be in a position to withdraw most of the troops far sooner than seemed possible a few months ago, it must be driven by events on the ground. I don’t deny the impact Maliki’s statement may have on domesic politics, and I don’t blame Obama and his supporters for playing the comments to the hilt (they would be foolish not to)…but to the extent that his comments undermined official government negotiations, and appeared to endorse the views of a domestic political candidate, I find them both reckless and uncalled for.
The final word, though: as I’ve said before, we have to respect Iraqi sovereignty – and if they say get out, we’re going to have to…

There is, of course, a third possibility.
There are Iraqi elections coming up.
The American troop presence is massively unpopular among the Iraqi people (most notably, among the Shia).
Like any politician anywhere, faced with such a situation, he is inching away from a massively unpopular policy, towards one that better reflects the will of the Iraqi people.
Good point on the elections…but I still don’t like it. Forgetting for the moment whether Obama or McCain has the better approach, if I may refer to the movie I saw this weekend, Maliki seems to be auditioning for the role of TwoFace in the next Batman. I disagree with this position, if this is really his, but I would respect it, if I thought it WAS really his position, and not just the flavor of the day. But your number three is really pretty close to my number one, isn’t it?…
Setting all the political considerations aside for a moment, I don’t see much contradiction or a change in perspective. We and Iraq have agreed, via some joint statement, to a time horizon. Given recent successes in quelling violence there is:
a. increased confidence that Iraq is stabilizing.
b. increased confidence that the Iraqi’s can maintain that control.
So Maliki says sixteen months, from next Jan 20th I suppose, is a reasonable amount of time, give or take a few months. That sounds like a time horizon to me, and is still inspecific. Meanwhile, we are drawing down troop levels in Iraq.
I think this is more about the politics than the facts of the situation in Iraq.
In what sense, Mark, does Obama just tell people what they want to hear? In a related question, if this is a criticism you have of Obama, how can you possibly entertain the notion of voting for McCain?
Fargus: I assume in the sense that he’s a politician and they tend to make a point of framing their positions to appeal to varying audiences. The only bona fide flip-flop I’ll really grant on Obama is the FISA one – he tucked his tail firmly between his legs and ran away on that one.
And your point about McCain is well taken. I find it somewhat underwhelming the way “vote for Obama” is so often justified with “he’s not McCain” and I am not generally impressed with charges of hypocrisy. That said, the claim that Obama is the guy who tells people what they want to hear – and the related media-created halo surrounding Mr. Straight Talk – is so prima facie ludicrous that it really does bear mentioning that the contest here is between Obama and *John McCain*. And that’s not exactly a contest.
Hold on! Aren’t you the guy that admitted to some serious concerns with Obama over his “move to the center” following the primary season? Before you start yelling, please note I am NOT defending the owner of the self-described Straight Talk Express; no, I would just say that Obama certainly has shown some of Reagan’s and Clinton’s (W. not H.) abilities to change positions without serious political consequences.
Interesting to note that if Mr. Fargus is correct, the leader of Iraq, who is up for election, is reacting to the views and desires of the voters. How democratic!
Obama didn’t flip on campaign finance? Man, you guys are easy to please!…Well, vote for him, then, but don’t begrudge my “I told you so”…
Actually I think it is Jacques, and not Fargus, who suggested that Maliki is reacting to the views and desires of the voters. Just keeping score here.
Assuming that this view is correct — and there is a plurality of Iraqis who want us out of there — tthen why are we still there?
Peter, the absolute EARLIEST anyone, including Maliki and Obama has mentioned, is 2010. You’re not being realistic…
I completely agree — you can’t move 140,000 soldiers and their equipment on a dime. Nor should we. However, there is a world of difference between setting a timetable to leave and the Bush/McCain position of trying to establish permanent bases there.